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Knut

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2011-02-08 11-42-30

Physicians View on Oral HIV Transmission As a physician, and a bisexual man, I feel I need to comment on this thread. We are cautioned as doctors what to say about HIV transmission, and if I was speaking to a patient my answer would be different, but for this forum, since nobody knows who i am, i can tell the real truth. It is true that oral has been debated since the start of this, but we are still going back and forth on whether HIV is transmitted via oral. Here is my "opinion". Yes, it is "possible" to contract HIV from getting semen in the mouth. What researchers define as possible is strictly theoretical, meaning that it is assumed that semen has HIV, and that if it enters your body, HIV could be transmitted. The issue is whether this happens in real life situations. The answer to that question is "unlikely". Now, if any of you attended medical school, you would know when a doctor uses the term "unlikely", it really means "almost impossible". We say unlikely becuase we cannot be 100% sure of anything in medicine. So, unlikely really means almost impossibe. Following? Good Now, there are some guys and women who claim they were infected via oral. Can this be possible? Yes, anything is possible. But will it happen? Probably not. If you think about the amount of people engaging in oral sex, from teenagers to hetero couples to gay men, the numbers are astronomical. Stop by an adult video store and you will see hundreds of oral exchanges going on. If oral sex spread HIV, don't you think the overall numbers would be higher? Of course. I personnaly know some guys who have sucked off thousands of men over the years, and they are perfectly healthly. Okay, some do get other STD's, but HIV is rarely ne of them. as a matter of fact, in discussions with collegues that specialize in infectous diseases, they cannot remember single case spread by oral. Now don't write me and say "I know a guy who got it from oral"! Maybe you do. But the reality is, unless you have some underlying condition, taking semen into the mouth will NOT transmit HIV
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2011-02-10 23-25-15

Well, I’ve never had a doctor ask me to wear a condom for oral or hesitate to take my load.
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  • lozier

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    2011-02-13 6-20-28-

    not if they're both tweakers. That picture alone is a vivid warning to not tread there. I've heard that it's toke and you're hooked forever. No thank you. My subtext to the op was, what about sores and abrasions in one's mouth? Aren't those avenues for infection? Has any researcher found hiv in semen?
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    2011-02-24 2-53-54-

    its very possible. open sores and rotten teeth are the perfect avenue for such transmission of diseases.
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    knippel

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    2011-03-23 11-39-04

    I believe there has been confirmed case of oral HIV transmission recorded, and it was actually from kissing. But the guy had severe gum disease and the girl (who got infected) likely had less than ideal oral hygiene as well.
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  • Shaun

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    2011-05-10 11-09-47

    Unlikely I have not heard of the case involving kissing, honestly, it sounds odd to me since the level of HIV in saliva is nowhere near a level that can infect. As far as open sores, the probability would definitely increase. Another factor would be the use of poppers, since they have been found to cause short term significant drops in the immune system, but I have not read any studies regarding that. However, if you have a relatively healthy mouth, you should be fine. Spit or swallow, really doesn't matter, although the stomach is so acidic the virus dies instantly.
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    2011-07-08 22-53-34

    Here, I found an article about it
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    pontes

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    2011-08-13 22-53-51

    Very old That's a very old report and my guess is that it was inaccurate, just does not seem mediy plausable. but you never know!
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    2011-08-28 19-49-18

    Thanks, Stu I appreciate this. Sometimes it is hard to get enough info. I am hearing in SF that we have increased transmission of other STD's through oral though. So - My BF and I only suck each other off. Too bad too... we DO love sucking cock.
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    2011-10-14 7-51-58-

    What about the recent findings with respect to transmission of HPV through oral sex and resulting oral/throat cancers?
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    2011-12-08 16-41-46

    I don't mean to speak for stugross but I think he refereed to that possibility, his focus was narrowed to HIV oral transmission. Here's the pertinent quote, "Okay, some do get other STD's, but HIV is rarely (o)ne of them" I would think that if someone had an outbreak of HPV, hopefully unknowingly (although that seems unlikely,) he would be highly susceptible to HIV.
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    2011-12-22 16-02-32

    Thank you I have heard and read a lot of if's and what's, but Thanks Doc for clearing it up fo a lot of folks. I enjoy giving oral, and at times had often wondered if I could get HIV it I swallow. Which of course I do. I can now relax a little and enjoy it more. Thanks...
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  • woolson

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    2011-12-28 4-30-28-

    All Good Points Hope you all had a nice weekend! Thanks for the good responses and excellent questions. To address the HPV issue, I would say that yes, it may increase the risk somewhat, but again, we are talking about high numbers to begin with, so is it really an issue? It's similar to crossing the street, there is always a chance you will get run over. If you cross at the light, the chances are very slim. However, if you "jay-walk", the risk would increase. But is it significant enought to make you stop doing that? From a clinical standpoint, we can only make assumptions based on actual cases, which in the case of oral transmission of HIV, are almost nonexistant. That is why I share the opinion that there is very little chance when performing oral, whether or not you let the guy cum in you muoth. But to address the other comment, we need to be concerned about the other STD's. Many of them are easily transmittable through oral contact, either direction (giving/receiving). But that has always been the case, even before the onset of HIV. This is not new news! So in closing I think what we have to take away from this is that if you like to suck cock (and who doesn't!) you need to be as diligent as always.
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